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  Beautiful New "Kingdom Hall"

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these images were posted on one of my fb news feeds.

  they are legit.

  looks like an upscale commercial bldg.

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  stan livedeath

  @ Smiddy.

  i know of several kh that were formerly churches. i could never understand that.
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  married young--in the cult--divorced ?

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  following on from mrquik's thread.... who of us married at an early age to another j-dub ?

  how long did the marriage last?.

  how did it end ?.

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  stan livedeath

  following on from Mrquik's thread...

  who of us married at an early age to another j-dub ?

  how long did the marriage last?

  how did it end ?

  in my case--i courted a young female born-in 3rd generation dub from my mid teens. her parents were strict dubs. her father would not give us permission to marry for several years. my reason to marry--? sex. i was gagging for it. we did engage in a lot of " fooling around" but never went the whole way.

  did i love her ? i thought so at the time..but that soon passed.

  we got married when i was 20..she was 19.

  our first child came 3 years later. 2 more after armageddon never happened in '75. by then i was long out of the cult.

  after our 3rd kid--i offered to have a vasectomy--but she wouldnt hear of it. in fact--she wouldnt even discuss birth control. it never dawned on me she was looking for a way out of the marriage.

  i handed that to her--gift wrapped. i started an affaire with another "sister" i had fancied for years.

  so my wife filed for divorce citing my adultery--and it was all over within a few weeks. 13 years of marriage and 3 kids later.
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  R movies

  by longday in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok i know from being in the cult for many years some will watch r movies and just do it on the down low at home.

  i know of some who would walk out of a room or leave if someone played an r movie when they were visiting.

  my ex partner who was an elder would walk out of a room if anyone played anything that was remotely questionable.

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  stan livedeath

  i never knew what an R movie was.. i thought maybe like the infamous snuff movies of the 80's. i dont like watching murder films. rather watch people have sex than kill each other.
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  A little rant about prayer

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is god responsible for every good thing that happens in your life?

  i ask this because a brother gave a talk several weeks ago and said that.

  he said when anything positive happens, we must not assume it was by mere coincidence, but we have to have 100% confidence that jehovah cares for us and was involved.. however, people complain that jehovah doesn’t answer their prayers and are told you have to keep asking, you need to show him you really want it bad.

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  stan livedeath

  i stopped praying to jehovah when he didnt give me a bigger penis.
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  CSA inquiry in the UK.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.iicsa.org.uk/news/inquiry-announces-new-investigation-child-protection-religious-organisations-and-settings.

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  stan livedeath

  unfortunately---in the UK the CSA was the Child Support Agency.
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  New Boy is out!

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well after 11 years it's finally out!.

  this book could have never have happened if not for the jwd web site and the wonderful people here!

  people who have helped so much with gathering the information that is in this book.

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  stan livedeath

  stan livedeath13 days ago

  i just read the amazon (UK) listing for this book--and was rather amused to see the write up about it was by someone with the same name as my late (JW ) father.

  the person in the book i was referring to was Jack Sutton---same name as my late father.

  if anyone reading this knew my dad--in Birmingham UK up to the mid 1980's--and the isle of Wight (UK) up to 2016, they are welcome to send me a PM.
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  Advice on Disassociating

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello my exjw/pimo/pomo friends,.

  i am working on penning my da letter and wondered if i should use it as a tool to maybe wake up individuals as the boe will have to read it.. anyone have any advice on what i should say versus what i should leave out?

  i am not going to fade as my family can either be loyal to blood or loyal to a man made religion.

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  stan livedeath

  Dubstepped.

  i disagree with what you say about a letter of disassociation. its exactly what the cult want if they have no grounds to d.f a person--the end result is the same----it is announced that the person is no longer one of blah blah blah.

  so--from then on in--its pressure on that persons family and friends to shoot the shun gun. and if they do associate--they run the risk of being d/f for it.

  in my case--going back to the 70's,..the shunning rule wasnt enforced like it is now. our family was friends with another couple--the husband had resigned from his congregation--having previously been the cong servant---he didnt want to face the shame and scandel of being d/f for adultery. his jw wife stuck by him.

  our family was happy with his company--they stayed at our house for holidays. he openly smoked. we simply regarded him as not a jw any more.

  so--i thought it would be the same for me. i resigned after attending a committee meeting held to check out something i was alleged to have said--although i hadnt attended meetings for over a year. i simply said i no longer considered myself a jw--and if they met with me in the street--i was MR ( sutton )..not BROTHER. but any of the congregation was welcome to visit my wife and her mother if they wanted to.

  this worked fine for years: i occasionally attended a talk or sunday assembly to keep my wife off my back. i was never shunned. it was a few more years later we got a divorce and subsequently my teen age kids started shunning ( from maternal pressure i guess )

  so i really do believe if anyone is contemplating writing a letter of resignation / disassociation to think long and hard first if they have family still in the cult.

  the watchtower society is playing deadly games with families. why give it any more ammunition.
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  To Newboy

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve just finished reading your book, couldn’t put it down!

  what a great work!

  it’s disgusting what the organization does in “god’s name”!!

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  stan livedeath

  just finished reading it.

  i think i will post it to my daughters husband. you never know--he might just start to read it.
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  Persecuted for God's Name or Social Retards?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was on my cell phone this morning while pumping gas.

  i was having an intense conversation trying to resolve a potential business logistics problem that could affect a lot of people.

  time was of the essence.

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  stan livedeath

  i think because of the cart work seemingly reducing door knocking--it means joe public cares even less about dubs than before.

  a couple of dubs standing next to a rack stuffed with tracts gets hardly any attention. if you take away those discussions between ex-dubs and the cart attendants--who have you got left ?

  there are quite possibly more vegans than jw's now.
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  Police descend on Jehovah's Witness HQ after abuse allegations

  by BourneIdentity in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://brusselstimes.com/belgium/justice/15271/police-descend-on-jehovah-s-witness-hq-after-abuse-allegations.

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  stan livedeath

  i bet the GB are rubbing their hands with glee--persecution ! proof we are in the last days.